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Poster: light into ashes Date: Dec 4, 2009 7:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Other GD forums etc.

About the other 2 spots people have mentioned -

The Deadhook forum is indeed friendly, full of warm feelings & companionship. Many people have fled from the bitter waters of the Archive forum to the soothing breezes of deadhook. But it is not full of much Dead discussion or knowledge, except usually on an "I just heard this show" level.
It does have deadmax's reviews of some shows though, which is a plus, but you have to go digging.

I'll quote what I said about the Lost Sailor's Pub a while ago:

I would encourage people to check it out if they haven't seen it. There's a small population, but more Dead-related posts than, say, deadhook. It's even informative, in spots. And it's civil, which you can never say about the Archive forum.

But, in fairness, I also have some complaints about the Lost Sailor's Pub...
1) You have to register to see any messages.
2) Once you register, you may receive spam emails from forumup.it
3) I hate the ads. [Apparently firefox users can block this....but then they don't get to see the inviting "Meet Local Sailors" ads.....]
4) People's avatars & smilies usually take up more space than their actual messages! It gets tiresome looking at (and loading) that stuff. [Ditto for deadhook. Most people, of course, don't seem to mind.]
5) There's a distinct shortage of Pigpen-era fans - though Brent lovers will find plenty of company. Lots of '80s/90s experts there.

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Poster: DianaW Date: Dec 4, 2009 8:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Other GD forums etc.

Thanks, that is extremely helpful - the kind of info. I was hoping for. I am not at all a fan of overmoderated groups; in fact I'm usually the one arguing against heavy-handed moderation. I guess I'm seeing here what it can look like when there is no moderation at all, at least in a mostly male group. Mostly female groups I think have the opposite problem - there is overconcern that nobody should ever have their feelings hurt, or feel bad because somebody disagrees with them. These groups just get bitchy and PMS-y and people learn to stab each other in the back using PC language.

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Poster: jessandra Date: Dec 5, 2009 11:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Other GD forums etc.

I hear you on that one ;-). We certainly are a minority here and you can sure tell this is mainly a 'men's club' ... I’m glad to have you around.

This forum sure takes some getting used to but I am slowly learning not to get immediately offended when someone adds a crude reply for no apparent reason.

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Poster: DianaW Date: Dec 5, 2009 7:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Other GD forums etc.

I thought *you* were overreacting at first but I just hadn't seen some of the really nasty stuff yet. Still not sure it's do-able.

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Poster: jessandra Date: Dec 6, 2009 12:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Other GD forums etc.

Well, let's put it this way - I was rather freaked my first day going through this forum after landing on a thread mentioning pedofiles etc ... After all, this is a GD forum and not a pervert forum (so I thought).

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Dec 5, 2009 7:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Other GD forums etc.

If you dont care for "over-moderation" you wont enjoy The Lost Touch Heads Pub, because there, if you dont agree with Admiral Kochman, who goes by the name Suasponte here, you get a time out like snow_and_rain, and have to sit in the corner for one week.

In all fairness, it is quite an entertaining forum, especially if you agree with the folks there that 1987-1995 were the band's peak years.

However, actual knowledge about the music of the Grateful Dead is quite limited there. Some folks will go to great effort reviewing shows, and undertaking comprehensive projects, without having a grasp on the bands personel changes.

Im still trying to get to the bottom of an interesting theory I saw posted over there; Skobud, who was that singing on the New Potato Caboose from 10/12/68 if Weir wss kicked out of the band?

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Dec 5, 2009 9:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Other GD forums etc.

Diana,

Just know that Cliff has a chip on his shoulder about LSP.

Don't take his word for it, check it out for yourself.

http://lostsailorpub.forumup.it/

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Poster: DianaW Date: Dec 5, 2009 7:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Other GD forums etc.

all righty...

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Dec 6, 2009 5:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Other GD forums etc.

Actually, its Kochman who has the chip on his shoulder!

I have an axe to grind...

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Poster: kochman Date: Dec 6, 2009 1:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Other GD forums etc.

Cliff... your obsession with me is getting pretty creepy at this point.
Everyone can see it. I post here sporadically at best, yet you continue to drone on and on about me and the LSP.
Since last week about me or lost sailor pub:
http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=279963
http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=279662
http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=279091
http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=278790
http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=278277
http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=278249
http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=278172
In that same period, I posted once. Your attacks came completely out of nowhere, and even when I did post, I didn't attack you, yet still you continue.

Look in these threads for more, even further back...
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=forumPost%3A1%20AND%20cliff%20hucker%20koch
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=forumPost%3A1%20AND%20cliff%20hucker%20pub

It's well past the point of ridiculous cliff. Just get over whatever your axe to grind is all about already. Its really odd.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 5, 2009 11:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Other GD forums etc.

Hey D--when you check in you might notice that a huge exchange between us has been removed...that's because skies and Dan Healy thought that I was being overly friendly. They actually have the power to do that sort of thing--Healy because he worked with the boys, and skies cause French trolls can do anything...

Seriously, though, if you missed any of it--it was just a lot of discussion on this place vs other places and my poor attempts at humor (like above--that's most defn a joke, so if you're reading this skies, don't write in, okay?), BUT it was the rarely seen mods that removed it because it was SPAM (ie, all the stuff above and below our posts).

I just thought it was funny because I had a series of email notices about replies from you and when I went to them to reply, they were all gone; so you might be wondering too! In the end, I think I answered most of what you asked me about; sorry if I didn't...

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Poster: DianaW Date: Dec 5, 2009 7:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Other GD forums etc.

I'm so confused. Don't worry - I'll get over it.

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Poster: DianaW Date: Dec 5, 2009 7:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Other GD forums etc.

I'm so confused. Don't worry - I'll get over it.

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Poster: cush212 Date: Dec 5, 2009 11:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Other GD forums etc.

My friend, it's been a very bad week for one (or 2) liners... Tell yesterday (was there an inTELLional pun there???) Sorry fell off my chair again... Tell yesterday all I got was blank stares... Least I didn.t get my ass beat!!!

;)

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Dec 4, 2009 10:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Other GD forums etc.

I've always kind of thought of the Archive as a bit like the old west when compared to the other forums mentioned here; essentially lawless, but not without its charms. There's an ebb and flow to the level of inane driblle that must be sifted through; lately there have been more than the usual amount of worthless posts because a couple (at least) of trolls who blow in and out of these parts have been kicking up their heels here. From time to time I wonder why I even bother.

BUT...the depth and breadth of knowledge here is unmatched based on what I've seen. Deadhook, for example, has lots of well meaning folks, but just because you are polite doesn't mean you know what you're talking about. I only post occasionally, but I check in almost every day, on the off chance that I might stumble in to one of those threads that points me in new directions, or gets me to reconsider some previously covered ground.

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Poster: DianaW Date: Dec 5, 2009 7:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Other GD forums etc.

All right, thanks for the tips.

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